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finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our law enforcement that have stood up and said, this is our job. >> defending themselves with passion and conviction, which up to this point we hadn't seen much of in terms of defense. jim sciutto closely watched the entire hearing today. jim, what were the revelations at the hearing? >> reporter: you got the sense as you say, erin, they were just waiting to go have the chance to push back like this. they pushed back very strong here. first on spying both clapper and alexander saying that our allies spy on us, including on our leaders, that in fact the intelligence services
finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our...
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magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively trying to quash the story, manage it, when you have leaks every day, something different. they need a better strategy to kind of get in front of this, i think, be more transparent because these leaks are coming. >> hard to protect the system of intelligence gathering when that's happening, the drip, drip. >> good to see you in person. >> come down more. >> come back. >> i will. >> imagine what they're saying on the phone with the pope? i'd like to be in on those calls. >> i don't know i'd want to know. >> edward snowden, former government contractor wh
magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively...
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does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will sticking with barneys hurt his brand as a rapper? the truth is probably not. he and his wife beyonce have had a stream of other income. jay z is worth $500 million. and when you add that to his wife, they have well over a billion dollars. which brings me to tonight's number. 3.6 million. according to the luxury institute. that is the average worth of a barney's shopper. they are incredibly wealthy. and even though he may not like probably not a boycott strong enough for him to change. >>> is the site of the winter games too dangerous? >>> and new details in the case of a bo
does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will...
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they're focusing on obama care, the nsa controversy. it's a tough position for president obama and his team, but i think there are parallels in both the nsa issue as well as the obama care website. they have to release more information. it continues to be a story if they don't release the enrollment numbers. i mean, clearly, if those numbers were good, they would be out. they keep saying mid-november. >> not until november, right? that's what we just heard from her this morning. we also heard, you know, that obama did not know about spying on allies. we heard obama did not know the health care website was such a mess. is i don't know really an acceptable defense? because at some point, you know, just speaking optically, don't you start to be perceived as out of touch? >> yeah, and previously obama hasn't taken this stance. he said on a number of occasions the buck stops with me, whether it's benghazi or other issues that he had in the first term. so i don't think that's a good long-term strategy. any time you're having that discussion o
they're focusing on obama care, the nsa controversy. it's a tough position for president obama and his team, but i think there are parallels in both the nsa issue as well as the obama care website. they have to release more information. it continues to be a story if they don't release the enrollment numbers. i mean, clearly, if those numbers were good, they would be out. they keep saying mid-november. >> not until november, right? that's what we just heard from her this morning. we also...
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. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me. >> any concerns? >> i don't know what's in his mind. i don't know what he's doing now. he might be in a hot tub with two russian strippers named i want to drink a lot. he's done some service, getting us to at least debate the issue and as far as stuff gone on the last week or so with the european allies being up sit, i can understand if they felt their personal cell phones were being tapped. but on the other hand, they should really climb a little bit. it's been 60, 70 years since america defended allies, especially in europe. we liberated europe twice in the last century. they never wanted
. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me....
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the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of not letting the country going into default. come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >> does it raise the broader question that the president is out of touch? >> that's what i was trying to get at. i don't get that sense but it's your underlings have to make sure that you understand things are happening and you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases. there's no getting around that. it's an embarrassment. it happened at about the same time. people will make connections even if they are not logical connections to make. i don't necessarily think this is a president that is out of the loop. >> as i said, i agree with charles in a sense th
the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of not letting the country going into default. come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >>...
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. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent about the issue, it is a line we cannot cross and we crossed it. >> where is the line, where should we be? >> there is a moral integrity that we have to respect. everybody has a right. you can't sell this idea that we're protecting you against the terrorists as greenwald has. the terrorists are a small group of people. and we have bugged the whole world, put all -- the hay stack is all there, and anything goes. and into the future. and that is what concerns me the most, because even if obama is a reasonable man, what if we did have a terror incident of major proportions, or there was another president that comes in, call it to the right
. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent...
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surveilance is in some cases the nsa reached too far. those are the exact words used by secretary of state john kerry. lis. >> and in some cases i acknowledge as has the president some of these actions have reached -- we are going to make sure that does not happen in the future. >> congress moving to limit the nsa spying capabilities at least domestically. yesterday the senate intelligence committee approving a bill that focuses on a program which collects metapate data on telephone calls by americans. >> and evan perez is with us from washington. what kind of changes are we talking about specifically? >> well, suzanne, these are very limited changes. they're not, they're still going to be claekting this type of metadata. this is basically you know, information on what numbers you're calling. how long the call took place and that kind of thing. and right now, what the nsa is doing is collecting all of this information on almost every phone call made by u.s. phone customers and it stores this. now, this bill that was approved by the senat
surveilance is in some cases the nsa reached too far. those are the exact words used by secretary of state john kerry. lis. >> and in some cases i acknowledge as has the president some of these actions have reached -- we are going to make sure that does not happen in the future. >> congress moving to limit the nsa spying capabilities at least domestically. yesterday the senate intelligence committee approving a bill that focuses on a program which collects metapate data on telephone...
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have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent. so you know, i always look at it from a counterintelligence perspective. and i wish he had not gone to moscow, i wish he would have made his protests on the floor of the courthouse, there is no evidence he is a deflector, but i can assure you that the fbi and the cia are looking at that possibility, but again, there is no evidence. >> all right, appreciate your viewpoint, thanks so much to bob and ray. >>> and up next, what would a real iron man suit look like? we'll show you the u.s. military is about to launch that very thing. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the d
have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent....
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allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big pushback coming from this unidentified source, the wall street journal, saying the president did not know the nsa was spying on foreign leaders, put a stop to it once he found out. let's take the president at his word. why didn't he know? >> look, i have absolutely zero idea about whether he knew whether he didn't, why he didn't, or what. what i do know is spying has been, you know, as old as diplomacy itself. it is part of accepted statecraft. it's not pleasant. they don't like it, but they all know it happens. i think the issue is the publics in europe were very upset. in germany
allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big...
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the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry. "we have long been concerned about the possibility of this snooping" said google "which is why we continue to extend encryption across more and more google services and links." yahoo! says "we have not given access to our data centers to the nsa or any other government agency." two european delegations upset at allegations of nsa surveillance in their countries met face-to-face with the white house and the in, sa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. so i asked them, does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >>
the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry....
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nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence se
nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of...
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regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer after which it ended some of those programs. the senior administration official tells me the program that monitored the phone of german chancellor angela merkel did not end until quite recently. the white house today sidestepped any comment on that report while vaguely promising more accountability. >> we recognize that there need to be additional constraints on how we gather and use intelligence, but the president has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities. the entire review that is being led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year. >> the offi
regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer...
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she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it comes to transatlantic friendship and partnership. and to have someone on the other side of the atlantic who is not willing to communicate at the moment when you need to talk to each other. such things can be resolved. someone who is not willing to send someone over to germany to explain what is happening or to paris or to other places but to wait up until the moment german delegation comes to washington are tiny diplomatic steps that would be helpful installed at the right place. >> pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. >> great to
she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it...
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this is what was violated by nsa activities. washington was playing by the laws of the jungle but inside europe's post-modern system. partly this is because the distinction is not easy to maintain. what if you look for terrorists within europe. that is people who still play by the laws of the jungle or even worse. america as a global power is operating all over the world trying to tackle some of the nastiest threats out there. perhaps it doesn't have the luxury to retreat to a garden and renounce nasty tactics. if it did, it's not likely that china, russia, al qaeda would follow suit. precisely because washington has to get its hands dirty, it should be smart about this. you don't stop terrorists in europe by listening in on angela merkel's cell phone. the rewards of spying on friendly heads of government are probably outweighed by the risks. and most troubling, it's not clear that many of these specific activities were clearly thought through and directed by the white house. nor do they appear to have been vetted by congress. i
this is what was violated by nsa activities. washington was playing by the laws of the jungle but inside europe's post-modern system. partly this is because the distinction is not easy to maintain. what if you look for terrorists within europe. that is people who still play by the laws of the jungle or even worse. america as a global power is operating all over the world trying to tackle some of the nastiest threats out there. perhaps it doesn't have the luxury to retreat to a garden and...
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spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the vociferous criticism that officials have leveled at the snowden leaks and at him and the press for publishing them, it is not all about terrorism. he keeps saying loorks, they want us to believe that everything that's being leaked is just about life and death terrorism. but it's not. there are a lot of other revelations, a lot of revelations about economic and commercial and industrial espionage. there are a lot of revelations obviously which started the firestorm of protests around the world. about spying and collecting metadata from ordinary citizens. that is what really drives glen green wald r
spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the...
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now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> reporter: senior administration officials tell cnn president obama did not know about the nsa surveillance of merkel and other allies until earlier this year. when he found out he ordered a stop to some of the programs. the democratic chairman of the senate intelligence community dianne feinstein usually an ally of the white house says that is not good enough and wants a total review of all u.s. intelligence programs. here is one explanation former vice president cheney gave cnn's jake tapper. >> we are vulnerable as was shown on 9/11. you ne
now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are...
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you've got people angry about nsa surveillance. he's now angry about nsa surveillance because he doesn't like the fact that angela merkle's phone was tapped. he can get angry, but in the end as he likes to say himself, the buck stops here. i'm the president of the united states. and he needs to make it clear within the white house that it's important that the bad news get to him because if he gets the bad news then he can prevent the problems. but you know how that works in the white house, wolf, people protect the president. they don't like it to go up the chain of command to the president. and he becomes isolated. and there has to be some way as a president as a manager, you say you know what, that's not good for me, and it's not good for the country. >> his aides or other officials at hhs knew there were problems in early september. we got the document showing those concerns. but apparently nobody shared those concerns with the president. >> right. and why would the president be the last to know. we've heard in history oh, they'
you've got people angry about nsa surveillance. he's now angry about nsa surveillance because he doesn't like the fact that angela merkle's phone was tapped. he can get angry, but in the end as he likes to say himself, the buck stops here. i'm the president of the united states. and he needs to make it clear within the white house that it's important that the bad news get to him because if he gets the bad news then he can prevent the problems. but you know how that works in the white house,...
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is he explaining his position on the nsa and his spying policy directive to the nsa? did he do enough yesterday? >> probably not. in the sense that he would not even publicly concede that the german chancellor's phone, some of those conversations were monitored. the president has a tough one. this is top-secret classified intelligence programs, the specifics of it and the practice of it. the president will have to do a couple things. at administration will have to answer the tough questions from congress and in doing so, hopefully answer questions from the american people. i suspect secretary kerry and the president himself, diplomacy with these allied leaders. a lot of close friends are peeved and say this will affect relationships down the road. >> senator lindsey graham says he'll stahl all nominations until he gets more information on the attack in benghazi. it's been more than a year. what's lindsey graham trying to do here? >> is he trying to help his colleagues in the house. because the democrats control the senate. so there's not a serious benghazi investigati
is he explaining his position on the nsa and his spying policy directive to the nsa? did he do enough yesterday? >> probably not. in the sense that he would not even publicly concede that the german chancellor's phone, some of those conversations were monitored. the president has a tough one. this is top-secret classified intelligence programs, the specifics of it and the practice of it. the president will have to do a couple things. at administration will have to answer the tough...
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. >> the justice department is joining a lawsuit with the nsa leaker. a former employer is accusing the contractor of billing the government for background check that is it knew and completed. kenyan officials say five more people are in custody in connection with the deadly terrorist attack on the west gate mall last month. 11 other people are already being held. at least 67 were killed after gunmen stormed the shopping center. the south african olympic runner is facing new charges in the death of his girlfriend. along with murder, two gun charges are being added. they admit they claim it was an accident. take a look at what happened in milwaukee as the cruiser is chasing a speeding car. it swerves off the highway ramp and smashes into a barrier and goes airborne. the driver and officer were injured, but will be okay. the driver is charged with dui. >> incredible video. thanks very much. a horrifying story in california. 14 elderly parents abandoned after the facility is being shut down. they were left behind when the staff walked out. this man did not
. >> the justice department is joining a lawsuit with the nsa leaker. a former employer is accusing the contractor of billing the government for background check that is it knew and completed. kenyan officials say five more people are in custody in connection with the deadly terrorist attack on the west gate mall last month. 11 other people are already being held. at least 67 were killed after gunmen stormed the shopping center. the south african olympic runner is facing new charges in...
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. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they had, it helps to paint a picture of what they realize was happening. >> at that moment that they're seeing this on the tv, their third roommate comes back and says i just dropped off paul at l.a.x.. and they knew he had just dropped off paul to a shooting. >> absolutely disturbing to hear that, carol. now what we also know is where the shooter is from in the southern new jersey. they got text messages, his family did, his younger brother, his dad saw them apparently and alerted the chief of police in their town. that police officer then reached out to los angeles, they did a welfare
. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they...
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. >>> in russia, nsa leaker edward snowden is starting a new job. diana magnay has details from moscow. >> edward snowden starts a new job, tech support his lawyer says for a major russian website. we don't know which one but there's one that seems most likely, the russian version of facebook. it made snowden a very public job offer a few weeks back. it's the only major site who hasn't denied hiring him and it's recently launched a highly encrypted messaging system to protect user privacy. it sounds like a good fit but this is still guesswork. kate. >> thank you. in china, if you've ever had trouble opening a got of beer, you'll feel for these guys, trying to do it with a helicopter. monita rajpal explains. >> the best helicopter pilots have been showing off amazing skills in the skies. you might think it would be easier to open this beer bottle by hands but these teams at the tournament clearly relevant itch a challenge. pilots had eight minutes to open five beer bottles perched on poles above the ground without breaking them, the idea being it wou
. >>> in russia, nsa leaker edward snowden is starting a new job. diana magnay has details from moscow. >> edward snowden starts a new job, tech support his lawyer says for a major russian website. we don't know which one but there's one that seems most likely, the russian version of facebook. it made snowden a very public job offer a few weeks back. it's the only major site who hasn't denied hiring him and it's recently launched a highly encrypted messaging system to protect...
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this is according to the nsa chief, general keith alexander. he's slamming a washington post report alleging exactly that. he said that never happened. he says it is factually incorrect. he says companies like yahoo and google are compelled to work with the nsa through court orders and those orders come with specific requirements that are almost always linked to terrorist cases. >>> not a good day to be kathleen sebelius. grilled over obama care and the launch of the healthcare.gov website. she tells a political committee today that she's sorry. >> i am as frustrated and angry as anyone with the flawed launch of healthhealthcare.gov, so lety directly to these americans, you deserve better. i apologize. >> the obama care website only part of the three and a half hour grilling. secretary sebelius got from the house energy and commerce committee. the rest of it ranged from cost and president obama's pledge if you like your insurance, you can keep it, to red herrings, red solo cups, and the wizard of oz. throughout the entire hearing today, the hea
this is according to the nsa chief, general keith alexander. he's slamming a washington post report alleging exactly that. he said that never happened. he says it is factually incorrect. he says companies like yahoo and google are compelled to work with the nsa through court orders and those orders come with specific requirements that are almost always linked to terrorist cases. >>> not a good day to be kathleen sebelius. grilled over obama care and the launch of the healthcare.gov...
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i mean, when you look at the nsa spying. when you see the mess that has been the obama care rollout the sound bites from president obama. i didn't know, i didn't know. now you have the poll numbers to really prove it. i don't want to get into what the president did know or not, but on a pure optics level, it looks bad, am i wrong? >> yeah. >> tell me why i'm wrong, chris kofinas? >> obviously, the poll numbers aren't good, that prr pretty self-evident. a lot to explain. bystander president is a little harsh. the reality is he is the president and he is accountable and the buck stops with him, we all understand that. there are challenges and the realities of governing a country like it united states where he can't be on top and control everything. that means you have to hold the people under you accountable. now, i think what's happening there is that. >> he's not. people are saying he's not accountable. >> no, i think he made it very clear. >> i think in terms of the website that it's going to be fixed. he made it very clear
i mean, when you look at the nsa spying. when you see the mess that has been the obama care rollout the sound bites from president obama. i didn't know, i didn't know. now you have the poll numbers to really prove it. i don't want to get into what the president did know or not, but on a pure optics level, it looks bad, am i wrong? >> yeah. >> tell me why i'm wrong, chris kofinas? >> obviously, the poll numbers aren't good, that prr pretty self-evident. a lot to explain....
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he watched the disclosure of nsa secrets by "the guardian" this year with interest as glenn greenwald champion eed as ed a e adversarial. he argued that impartiality is flawed and that people who are willing to not only acknowledge beliefs but publicly. what's wrong with that approach? >> there's nothing wrong with that approach. it's not the only approach that works. there has been greated adversarl coverage over the years. they were going after the trusts and corrupt political machines and they wrote with real edge to them. they also had the facts. they had the information. but more and more we're now in an era where thanks to the internet anybody with broadband access can be a commentator. that's great. the effect of the internet has been by in large a good thing. it's pulled mainstream media down from the god-like stature that it had for so long. that's terrific. i think in that world more than ever when you have these points of view, it's really useful to have somebody who tries to sort of play the arbiter. you know, the shortcoming of activist or adversarial journalism is two-fo
he watched the disclosure of nsa secrets by "the guardian" this year with interest as glenn greenwald champion eed as ed a e adversarial. he argued that impartiality is flawed and that people who are willing to not only acknowledge beliefs but publicly. what's wrong with that approach? >> there's nothing wrong with that approach. it's not the only approach that works. there has been greated adversarl coverage over the years. they were going after the trusts and corrupt political...